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Post by negativecreep on Aug 26, 2012 13:33:12 GMT -5
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Aug 26, 2012 13:51:05 GMT -5
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Aug 26, 2012 13:59:34 GMT -5
Those are not exactly critiques of Maoism, because Maoism originated much later, generalizing some of Mao's ideas and adding theory to them, while sometimes challenging Mao's on positions. Hoxha's works criticize the Chinese revolution and what was known at that time as Mao Zedong Thought. Have you read the following response to Hoxha? www.marxists.org/history/erol/ncm-5/rcp-hoxha/index.htmIt will be nice to have a pointwise discussion on Hoxha's critiques and their counter-arguments.
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Post by negativecreep on Aug 26, 2012 14:03:19 GMT -5
There is much more, but these were the basics. The first time definitely has a critique on maoism though.
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Aug 26, 2012 22:29:07 GMT -5
There is much more, but these were the basics. The first time definitely has a critique on maoism though. Can you please quote some parts which you think are critical to Maoism? I think most of Hoxha's criticisms focus on the three-worlds theory which Maoism itself rejects as revisionism.
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Post by negativecreep on Aug 27, 2012 7:19:47 GMT -5
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Aug 27, 2012 12:36:21 GMT -5
Mao Zedong Thought had different meanings from time to time, ranging from just a special case of Marxism-Leninism applicable to China to a qualitative development of Marxism-Leninism. At some point when the latter was its dominant interpretation, most of the revolutionary communist parties of the world began using the term Maoism. At the present moment, Maoism stands for the continually evolving proletarian ideology which went through qualitative changes under Marx, Lenin and Mao. Indeed, some of the points raised in Hoxha's critique are against core observations and analyses of Maoism. Such as the existence of classes under socialism and class struggle within the party itself. So I withdraw my previous statement. Hoxha did attack central ideas of Maoism. In my next post, I will try to show some problems in Hoxha's critique using the Maoist response that I linked to earlier.
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Post by ninel on Sept 25, 2012 7:13:17 GMT -5
Hoxhaism and Maoism are two sides of the same coin. Both are further degenerated versions of the already anti-worker ideology of Stalinism.
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Post by oskarmlm on Oct 9, 2012 16:46:54 GMT -5
How about simply banning all Hoxhaite and Trotskyite revisionists? Why do we have to continually sink down and argue on their level? Why do we have to repeatedly refute Hoxha's slanders when his dogmato-revisionist theories have led nowhere? Why do we have to explain the qualitative difference between Mao Tse-tung Thought and Maoism to people who don't care and won't understand?
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Oct 10, 2012 13:45:16 GMT -5
How about simply banning all Hoxhaite and Trotskyite revisionists? Why do we have to continually sink down and argue on their level? Why do we have to repeatedly refute Hoxha's slanders when his dogmato-revisionist theories have led nowhere? Why do we have to explain the qualitative difference between Mao Tse-tung Thought and Maoism to people who don't care and won't understand? Welcome to the board. Here we don't ban anyone because of his ideology, unless it is explicitly discriminatory with respect to race, gender, religion etc. At one point of time you will have to explain Marxism even to orthodox theists, so this is merely an exercise. Enjoy your stay.
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Post by Dawn of the Red on Oct 10, 2012 13:46:23 GMT -5
Hoxhaism and Maoism are two sides of the same coin. Both are further degenerated versions of the already anti-worker ideology of Stalinism. Very explanatory and theoretically rich post.
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Post by oskarmlm on Oct 17, 2012 15:52:14 GMT -5
How about simply banning all Hoxhaite and Trotskyite revisionists? Why do we have to continually sink down and argue on their level? Why do we have to repeatedly refute Hoxha's slanders when his dogmato-revisionist theories have led nowhere? Why do we have to explain the qualitative difference between Mao Tse-tung Thought and Maoism to people who don't care and won't understand? Welcome to the board. Here we don't ban anyone because of his ideology, unless it is explicitly discriminatory with respect to race, gender, religion etc. At one point of time you will have to explain Marxism even to orthodox theists, so this is merely an exercise. Enjoy your stay. Okay, I understand. Please accept my apologies for the hostility!!
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